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    It looks a bit like our English 3 Lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunray's wench View Post
    It looks a bit like our English 3 Lions
    Had to google your 3 lions, coat of arms of England was new to me. Actually "our" lion is in our coat of arms, too.

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    I wrote to my pp a long letter with some extras, in the letter I told that I feel uncomfortable about this thing and told why I feel that. I asked him some in my opinion pretty neutral questions and also how he feels about my points. I stated clearly no matter what his answers are I would like to know them because I don't want to wonder and maybe feel bad for nothing. But this thing was only part of that letter. There was a lot of other things and questions on other things.

    After that letter I have sent another ones. Today I received his responses to my other letters but he didn't mention with a single word about THE letter. All my letters have always reached him pretty fast so it's hard for me to believe that just this letter wouldn't reached him. So maybe he is just ignoring it. He has earlier ignored my questions and I understand that but ignoring the whole letter and the stuff I sent with it (he was very excited about that stuff in advance...) It feels that he's ignoring me. I feel very bad and disrespected!

    I feel so bad about this that I can't just continue writing like nothing. So I would like to ask him in my next letter if he has received my letter or if he's just ignoring it. How would you react in the situation like this?


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    I wrote to my pp a long letter with some extras, in the letter I told that I feel uncomfortable about this thing and told why I feel that. I asked him some in my opinion pretty neutral questions and also how he feels about my points. I stated clearly no matter what his answers are I would like to know them because I don't want to wonder and maybe feel bad for nothing. But this thing was only part of that letter. There was a lot of other things and questions on other things.

    After that letter I have sent another ones. Today I received his responses to my other letters but he didn't mention with a single word about THE letter. All my letters have always reached him pretty fast so it's hard for me to believe that just this letter wouldn't reached him. So maybe he is just ignoring it. He has earlier ignored my questions and I understand that but ignoring the whole letter and the stuff I sent with it (he was very excited about that stuff in advance...) It feels that he's ignoring me. I feel very bad and disrespected!

    I feel so bad about this that I can't just continue writing like nothing. So I would like to ask him in my next letter if he has received my letter or if he's just ignoring it. How would you react in the situation like this?
    I would just ask him it might be that they are checking the letter more indepth or that he is writing a longer reply to it.
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    It all depends. How well do you know him? Some of his beliefs "may" (and I am only lightly suggesting the possibility) have something to do with his politics in the prison and therefore harder for him to want to write about?

    It could also be that you don't agree on some of these points and he's leaving them out rather than cause what might be construed as strife? I do know what it's like to have questions ignored and maybe it's personal and maybe it's not. It's annoying for sure but if it's something that is really important to you I would re-ask, as ashy said, and explain why you expect it to be answered. If it's a deal breaker for you that he answers things a certain way then maybe he's leaving it out on purpose because he wouldn't want to lose you as a friend despite his beliefs? Just a perspective.

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    GD, I don't know, all he said in the beginning that he has some white nationalists as a friend and I shouildn't stress about it. So I based on that I thought he does not share all their beliefs. And being openminded, I thought he would discuss about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora Borealis View Post
    GD, I don't know, all he said in the beginning that he has some white nationalists as a friend and I shouildn't stress about it. So I based on that I thought he does not share all their beliefs. And being openminded, I thought he would discuss about it. Plus I have disrespected nazis etc. and still my pp has said that he respects me a lot.
    well, it may be that he either never got the letter or it came out of order. I've sent my pp stuff that he received completely out of the actual order I've sent it in.

    Sounds like from what you said here that he wouldn't get insulted if you voiced a dissenting opinion. I've SEEN the guys ads who only want people with beliefs exactly like their own to write to and it doesn't sound like he's one. Maybe you could just be honest with him about what you want answered and why?

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    Ok first of all, I didn't read all the comments, so if this is a repeat I apologize. I just have one thing to say, don't condemn your pen-pal for having interests. I have always had an interest in serial killers, but I'm not gonna go out and murder people! Haha, simple as that. If in the future you learn that he is some kind of white supremicist, you can deal with it then. No point stressing yourself out about it. If that does happen, then consider it a doorway to some epic debates! You don't always have to agree with other people, you CAN talk it out.

    I had this fear with my last pen-pal, but it did me no good and it won't do you any good either.

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    ^^^^ What Easy Rider said.

    Remember that gang membership is often about survival, rather than belief. Even an alliance of blokes who won't join gangs becomes a gang in itself.

    Almost all of my penpals are members of some sort of a gang. A couple of them need me to talk out the issues with.

    Even on the outside, we are, most of us, members of gangs of some sort. I am a member of the Catholic gang. Doesn't mean that I am antagonistic towards the Protestants or the Feminists. Its just where my comfort zone is.

    Take time to ponder on what is going on.
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