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Old 03-10-2009, 03:22 PM
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My family is very, family oriented, ( sp?) but there are two things I will not do, lie to the laws for them, or kill for them. There is a time when a person has to take responsibility for themself. Being in prison is what they are doing.
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new member;looking for members that has loved ones in pikeville tennesse,prison.i agree with everyone they need your support.my brother was serving a 10 year term for touching his child but with out sexually doing anything he was a first time offender.he had changed his life in prision earned his ged.had seisures,severe depresion and 3 heart attacks!if he was not sick enough,why make him suffer!2 nights ago in the pikeville bledsoe tennesse prison he was murdered!beat to death until he was brain dead!he was my brother and i loved him.he was mentally retarded!if anyone knows anything or has a loved one there have them put someone else,i know steve is with his angels as we speak. i love u brother.little sis
I am sorry to hear about your brother's death. I understand your grief. I am hoping that you are able to remember the good things about your brother.

I have o one in that area so I am unable to help you as far as that goes. I read your story and felt your pain. Life has a different path for us all depending on the choices we make.
I hope your future is filled with better times.

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new member;looking for members that has loved ones in pikeville tennesse,prison.i agree with everyone they need your support.my brother was serving a 10 year term for touching his child but with out sexually doing anything he was a first time offender.he had changed his life in prision earned his ged.had seisures,severe depresion and 3 heart attacks!if he was not sick enough,why make him suffer!2 nights ago in the pikeville bledsoe tennesse prison he was murdered!beat to death until he was brain dead!he was my brother and i loved him.he was mentally retarded!if anyone knows anything or has a loved one there have them put someone else,i know steve is with his angels as we speak. i love u brother.little sis
My Prayers go out for you too, im so so sorry to hear about your brother,
my husband is at that prison,
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I was wondering (and been trying to imagine myself in this situation)
Do any of you ever get angry at the fact that your loved one has let themselves down and as a consequence have dragged everyone along with them through this hellish ride of the prison system?

I've been trying to imagine myself in this situation and all I keep coming up with is tears of anger and disappointment if it was one of my own sons or husband.

I think I would feel so let down by them.

I hope this is not too personal a question to ask ..........my apologies if it is.
Of course we do. [Moderator Edited] My cousin is in prison and she's an intelligent person who was pretty, now has turned her brain to mush and has made herself look 20 years older than she is. She'd destroyed her life through her choices. She destroyed our relationship through her choices. That said, if she ever wants to turn herself around, I'm there for her.

I have made really stupid choices too and I know my family was angry with me because they told me. I thank them for that. Coddling, enabling, abetting and worst of all denying that our family member has dragged us down through their behaviour is egregious.

I know my cousin has dragged our family through the depths of despair and some are no longer willing to help. That's their choice. My cousin and I are talking about it, she's still not willing to admit responsibility so it's a hard road but we're working on it.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if the family isn't hurt by their loved one going to prison for something they did and then don't take them on about the hurt they are still in denial.

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Well, I feel angry about my cousin's choices that split our family apart and [Moderator Edited]

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I believe I did state how I felt, not angry. It was expected and it was sad. Then I went full force into what was needed to get things back on track, for both.
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Of course we do. [Moderator Edited] My cousin is in prison and she's an intelligent person who was pretty, now has turned her brain to mush and has made herself look 20 years older than she is. She'd destroyed her life through her choices. She destroyed our relationship through her choices. That said, if she ever wants to turn herself around, I'm there for her.

It is a blessing that you are there for her. That is what's important.

I have made really stupid choices too
Me Too Saphiraand I know my family was angry with me because they told me. I thank them for that. Ditto! Coddling, enabling, abetting and worst of all denying that our family member has dragged us down through their behaviour is egregious.

I would not allow a family member to drag me down first of all. I have limits as to how much help I will give a family member from past experiences.

I would not call it "dragging me down" but really, it would depend on the individual and the circumstances of that family and situation to label it like that aI guess.


I know my cousin has dragged our family through the depths of despair and some are no longer willing to help. That's their choice.

I have a family member who had burned their bridges with me as well, to the point where I was no longer willing to help them. My cousin and I are talking about it, she's still not willing to admit responsibility so it's a hard road but we're working on it.

It is so difficult when they are in denial. It is up to you to decide when you are no longer willing to help, what you are willing to do as a family and as an individual. The road is most definitely difficult, long, and laborious.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if the family isn't hurt by their loved one going to prison for something they did and then don't take them on about the hurt they are still in denial.

[i]I really could not respond on that right now unless I was in that situation. To me, some things are not easily spoken about or qualifies fo rme to make an opinion on unless I am in that situation experiencing it at the time.


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Well, I feel angry about my cousin's choices that split our family apart and [Moderator Edited]



Maybe they are in denial. Maybe they don't want to face it. I can't say what their circumstances are.

Me and mine? My son is innocent. We are close and have discussed it ( the situation/circumstances) and our feelings.[ I trust him and love him and ditto for him about me.

Seems like that is a pretty good place to start and end.

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new member;looking for members that has loved ones in pikeville tennesse,prison.i agree with everyone they need your support.my brother was serving a 10 year term for touching his child but with out sexually doing anything he was a first time offender.he had changed his life in prision earned his ged.had seisures,severe depresion and 3 heart attacks!if he was not sick enough,why make him suffer!2 nights ago in the pikeville bledsoe tennesse prison he was murdered!beat to death until he was brain dead!he was my brother and i loved him.he was mentally retarded!if anyone knows anything or has a loved one there have them put someone else,i know steve is with his angels as we speak. i love u brother.little sis
apparenty this did not happen, my hubby has asked around too, the only steve that has died was a friend of his who died of an overdose,
ive also asked someone else i know who has a son there who knows nothing about this,
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