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View Poll Results: What do you suggest an inmate do when money is being extored from him?
Tell A Guard 0 0%
Fight and Risk Being Moved To More Dangerous Cell 7 24.14%
Be Moved To Different Location If An Option 3 10.34%
Snitch and Risk That 0 0%
Go To Solitary Confinement After Snitching 0 0%
Tell Extortionist "NO" and Take Chances Whatever They Are 4 13.79%
Pray And have Faith and Do #6 Also 4 13.79%
Don't Know 4 13.79%
Talk To Counselor 4 13.79%
Hard To Say 6 20.69%
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An extortion officer is not a 'guard' with a title. They are, in layman's terms, an investigator.

My pal's cellie had to turn someone in for this. They move his cellie to another yard... and they investigated the guy, who ended up being sent to the shu.

He was extorting sex or money.... if you were not putting out you had to pay.

In an effort to bring or reduce the continued criminal activity, the cellie talked to the extortion officer. He was more concerned with Innocent 'green' inmates being raped than he was being labeled a snitch.
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Your pals cellie was very brave to do that . He might be labeled a snitch then booty bandits are not really wanted around so they could very well not care .

We had our own way of dealing with "booty bandits " . Lets say we sent more than one to The Hospital unit in Galveston . They got the message . The good part is they are a very small part of the prison population and I think now TDCJ will file free world charges on them and they are labeled a dangerous sex offender and get a additional sentence with enhanced time as well as serving out their sentence in ad seg .

They also have other more subtle ways of dealing with them. thatget them caught. Some even get set up to be caught.
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An extortion officer is not a 'guard' with a title. They are, in layman's terms, an investigator.

My pal's cellie had to turn someone in for this. They move his cellie to another yard... and they investigated the guy, who ended up being sent to the shu.

He was extorting sex or money.... if you were not putting out you had to pay.

In an effort to bring or reduce the continued criminal activity, the cellie talked to the extortion officer. He was more concerned with Innocent 'green' inmates being raped than he was being labeled a snitch.
I see. I understand the circumstances of "that" situation. Unfortunately, not everyone's situation is the same. That worked for him and his reasons behind it were honorable. I am not sure the entire circumstances of my son's situation and may never know except what it is he told me. I have to take his word for it and am inclined to do so.

I am sure that my son would do what is right in any given situation. I would like to think that he would.

I am sure that you can understand that my son's situation, being 'green" himself, and not knowing the ways of the prison life as of yet.........who knows? I'm not there and can't make decisions for him as I would love to do.

But back to reporting to an Extortion Officer. That is an option, depending on the individual and the circumstances of the situation I guess.

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It certainly would not work in all cases. I am fortunate enough that nobody tries that nonsense with my husband. I think a part of that has to do with how much I actually do for the prison where he is, and how active I am in functions and organizing them. Which does give us an advantage.

It is sad and unfortunate that someone is doing this to your son. I hope he is wise enough to do his time and not allow them to suck him into anything that could effect his stay there.
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Sorry for your son and for you, I voted in the minority I am afraid, be moved if there is the option. I also feel that in prison one should stand up for yourself because from what I have heard and read, reputation and respect (prison respect) is what will keep you safe inside.

Snitching is definately not an option but nor is paying someone elses debt and living in fear every day.

It is easy for us here in the free world to comment though and very glad not to be the mother of a son going through this, we dont teach our kids to fight but we do try to ensure they defend themselves and not get bullied. I speak from recent and present experience with my own young son, who is having issues at school because he is raised to be polite.

Good luck to you and your son especially.
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My heart beats faster and faster. I have silent tears falling from my eyes. I see images of my son having terrible things done to him. I am so very, very frightened. I think the telephone will ring telling me he is dead, raped, injured, something! I wish I was rich and could afford a lawyer to get my son out of there early and be released from the craziness. I wish I could trade places with him. I feel his fear and uncertainty. I feel his aloneness and I hear him cry out to God for Mercy snd to be saved. I feel helpless and wonder why him? Why my other son? Why us? We did not want to ber a statistic. We wanted to be the good guys. We pray and we love and we laugh yet we harmed no one. WHY?

No answers. None. Just always trying to rebuild what was kocked down and thankful that we are still living and together and wondering what will happen next.

Please, please Lord continue to take care of my son and bring him home soon.

This is "my" daily cry and prayer.

The pain is way too deep to be put into words. The hurt and the anger and the helplessness and the unfairness of it all.

I will never understand.

My Bible teaches me to be patient and listen and waith and then act. I on the other hand always act foirst then wait and not patiently. I am afraid. We are human. We are not always strong.

I have faith but is it enough? I am full of love but is it enough? WHY?

Please, if you are a praying person, pray for my son and believe what you pray. Prayer is powerful and it has never not worked that I know of. God never lies.

Pray for my son. He nd I are overwhelmed.

Thank you and Be Blessed.

But, I have faith in God.
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What I said in another thread in regards to your situation should be an option for you and your son to consider. Once the cycle begins it won't end. It will only get worse. You need to convince him to ask to be moved to PC. I am afraid you all will need more on this situation than just the power of prayer.

Here is what I said in the other thread:
In your situation, at least the one you are describing, it is inmate to inmate extortion, or at least sounds like it. That is a typical scenario, especially when one is new to the prison system.

Generally it is an inmate to inmate hustle. The options for the inmate who is being extorted for money is to find his own way to handle it, and if he has a short term sentence he can ask to go to PC (protective custody) and talk to the extortion officer. Generally, in the situations I have seen, the individual was moved to PC before anything happened with the investigation.


The extortion officers are investigators, not Co's. They compromise the program if there is a leak in the process, which is why the program is not lead by Co's walking the pods or yard.

Parole is based on the offenders crime, and his behavior in prison, as well as him/her taking any classes to better him/herself. A CO nor a fellow inmate can have an effect on the parole boards decision. What is happening here is someone is trying to bully your son into doing something now and then later on bully him into more illegal activities.

I am sure you can see how these are two different topics. But none the less both heart wrenching.

I am not sure how much longer your son has, but he may want to consider PC. Once the cycle begins, it is very hard to break it without it leading to more and more.
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Thanks again to all who have responded to this thread and all who have voted. I have sent all responses to my son iin hopes that he had more options to view and could make a better decision.

I want to let you know that I have faith and faith "without works is dead." Meaning, faith alone is not enough. Action is required as well.

So to let you know also that my son is growing in his faith in God. He was growing in his faith prior to being put in prison. All he needed was a small amount (it is said a mustard seed) of faith.

My son has always been a person that is calm and waits until he cnnot deal with it any longer than explodes. He cares for others and puts others ahead of himself as do I.

This is not always good but nonetheless, where he is now, the exploding part could be harmful to him and good as well. It definetely depends on the situation.

His situation was an inmate -on -nmate and an inmate -on- guard extortion taking place I found out.

You all have given a lot of good advice but ultimately it is my son who has to make a decision on what it is he will do.

"PRAYER IS POWERfUL" and should not be "underestimated" as not being enough. I have seen prayer save lives all by itself many times, and "I" was one of the many times prayer worked.

"THIS" is where FAITH comes in.

I was afraid and so was my son.

Which did not lead to "no" action being taken, it led to "fear" taking over "logical" thinking and taking over the place of our "faith."

Because fear came into play, we panicked.

We are human of course. Prison is not a playground. It is enough reason all by itself to be afraid.
If you are not a fighting person, but a calm soul, these things you find behind prison walls are something else entirely!

My son will fight, compared to not fighting at all let me correct that right now. Whether he is overpowered or not. He is a logical thinker and when he can't figure something out logically, he relies on God.

But I know that God controls everything and everyone. It's as simple as that. In a situation that looks and seems grave, God and only God can alter the outcome. Prayer "is" powerful!

My son will come home and he will be o.k. He will be a lot more mature and cautious and much more appreciative than he already was of everything and everyone. Unfortunately, he will be less trusting of others and it will take a lot of work to help him feel alright again. But he has a good family that loves him and he has God and Prayer and Hope that will bring him through all of this.
Now, he has all of you!

Thank you!

Our Family Got Bigger Because of this Incident.
Good Things Can Be Found In This Situation, Right?
I "must" think positive and know that this will pass and it will be o.k. because I have done everything within my power and have given it over to God.

Be Blessed!
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