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FAIRFAX, Virginia (AP) — The attorney for convicted sniper John Allen Muhammad says he plans to ask for clemency for his client who is scheduled for execution next month.
An announcement on attorney Jonathan Sheldon's law firm's website says he plans to file the clemency request next week with Gov. Timothy Kaine. Sheldon also plans to file an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court.

Kaine previously has said he's unlikely to grant clemency but would review Muhammad's request.

Muhammad was sentenced to death for the October 2002 slaying of Dean Harold Meyers at a Manassas gas station during a string of shootings that left 10 people dead and three wounded in Virginia, Washington, D.C., and Maryland.


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Well... I know I won't be the popular one for this but... he terrorized the DC area, killed and shot innocent people, for no reason at all other than his hatred for his ex-wife...

I think they should give all of the affected families a loaded gun, and put them in a room with him. Death by firing squad.
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I agree Skye. I lived in DC during this time and I was one of the many who were frightened to get gas or even walk to the store.
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I agree also, he terrorized and killed how many ??? Certainly not innocent !!!
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He wasn't just a guy who went on a tirade. He was a trained sniper in the military and used that to terrorize the DC area. This is a very smart individual, and with that said, he was smart enough to know these were DP crimes and with all due respect he needs to own up to and have the same fate his victims had.

It bothers me that as heinous as his crime was that he can even ask for clemency and there are so many on DR who shouldn't be there and they can't even get one appeal won to argue the point, when they had inadequate defense to begin with.
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I donīt know whether his trial was fair, but i have no doubt about his guilt and that it was very evil, heinous and devious what he and Lee Boyd Malvo have done when both terrorized the Washington D.C. area. These incidents got a huge media attention here. I remember that.
Nevertheless i would left him stayin alive where he is, in prison. Heīs a good example for a society to show that she is much more better than the offender. Itīs not much what his execution could change in the life of the victims relatives. The society has done what the society was able to do, to do all to catch both individuals. I remember the tremendous manpower what was used to catch both. Unfortunately the victims canīt return, it means that the pain will stay for the relatives, i guess. The task of the society is to protect herself from such people, it was successfull done since he was captured. Thatīs why i see no important reason to kill him when i suppress the not really friendly feelings (in me) for him, when i view it emotionless.
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I donīt know whether his trial was fair, but i have no doubt about his guilt and that it was very evil, heinous and devious what he and Lee Boyd Malvo have done when both terrorized the Washington D.C. area. These incidents got a huge media attention here. I remember that.
Nevertheless i would left him stayin alive where he is, in prison. Heīs a good example for a society to show that she is much more better than the offender. Itīs not much what his execution could change in the life of the victims relatives. The society has done what the society was able to do, to do all to catch both individuals. I remember the tremendous manpower what was used to catch both. Unfortunately the victims canīt return, it means that the pain will stay for the relatives, i guess. The task of the society is to protect herself from such people, it was successfull done since he was captured. Thatīs why i see no important reason to kill him when i suppress the not really friendly feelings (in me) for him, when i view it emotionless.

I don't know how he could have had an unfair trial. He killed people in a very heinous way and he was aware he was in a state where the DP existed when he committed these crimes.

He tormented a multi state community. I see no reason to pay his living expenses for the rest of his life when he did such heinous acts.

These are the crimes where I strongly believe in the DP. I have no emotions about it at all, it's simple, he deserves the same fate he dealt to those victims.

While it won't bring resolution for the families, it will bring them a sense of closure.

It's not just about the murders, but the manor in which they occurred. He not only killed people, he terrorized a multi-state region. That is pretty darn heinous.

I am not a die hard anti or pro, I believe in some cases it is necessary, and this is one of them. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Skye, i understand and accept all the feelings which are expressed in this thread, and all of them are justified. Believe me, my feelings are the same. I canīt say that i would have any friendly emotion for such a kind of terrorists. But when i reflect about societal ethics (and this is what i do) then i switch off any emotions, i do it rationally. And the result is a different one as if i would hear what my heart says.
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I have no emotions when I say his sentence is just and should be carried out. I look at it from a different point of view than you do, and that is a part of human nature. We all see things differently and our decisions, opinions, etc... will always vary.
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Heīs a good example for a society to show that she is much more better than the offender.


It is not about who is much better, they did terrorist acts, to over 11 people.

I guess one could say with a terrorist act as this against society, we as a civilized society, it is unexceptable and the DP is much more humane then they have shown to innocents who have lost their lives due to ones personal judgement no court nor jury "nothing" the victims have done.

I believe in the DP for crimes such as this, is the price one pays to owe up to responsiblity of taking so many other lives away. And proven guilty no doubt of doing these heinous acts to our people taking away their civil rights to feel safe you will never harm another "even inside a prison".

This is a fair and just outcome the DP and done as humanly as possible by us as a civilized society we are.
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