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Old 06-27-2008, 01:55 PM
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I just believe that there are people out there that commit such hannass and horrible crimes that do not deserve to live or ever see the light of day ever again
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:41 PM
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To be honest, i understand your emotions very well. But when we talk about legal systems or questions then i believe itīs the wrong place to be led by emotions.
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To be honest, i understand your emotions very well. But when we talk about legal systems or questions then i believe itīs the wrong place to be led by emotions.
this is not based soley on emotion this is based on the fact that threw medical castration and physical catration these type of people still continue on to pepertrate against children in many cases therefor they should not be allowed to see the light of day period at the end.
also same with serial kille in my own personal opinion why should the tax payers foot the bill and give them the liberty of living the rest of their lives out when they clearly have no respect for the value of human lives themselves ?
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Exactly your question build the strength of a modern society to bear such kind of people. The same right for all the people in a nation - this would mean when an offenders life is nothing worth, which value would have your own ? I know itīs very difficult to decide, but modern societies have done it. To save a life is more important than revenge or something like this. And itīs not the question which ones life has to be safed, a human life is a human life, independent of skin colour, religion, belief or how wrong and ill people can be.

In my head i have the case of Marc Dutroux from Belgium. He is not the kind of human being i want to have in my environment, the crimes he and his wife have done were too horrifying. And in my rememberance the police has had to save him before common people, otherwise it would been possible that they would have lynched him. He got a life sentence and itīs very clear that he never will leave the prison, but because of the guideline of humanity he lives. I guess the taxpayers costs to feed and house such offenders can one ignore, a view to Iraq is enough to recognize how money in really big dimensions burns on a daily base.
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Dragon I agree with the emotions. Yet, you say, they have no respect for the value of human lives, I agree again.

So, we are suppose to be above their thinking and behaviour because, we "do value all human life. Yes,not what they have done, but still is a life.
The most we should do as a sane society, for the ones that cannot really be part of the main stream ever is LWOP. My thoughts

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ok i understand your point but on the other side of the coin the death penalty brings closer to the vivtims and their family ,it elevates the cost of the tax payers to house then feed them give them medical care possibly better then they have had on the outside and it also may make one think twice before committing an act that in my opinion deserves death my opinion wont change its not a matter of revenge or emotions it is a matter of paying the cost for what you did you owe sociaty that dont committ the crime if you cant handle the cost but thats just me
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:47 PM
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lol vivtims hu? help! thank God its not a crime to mis spell or my butt would be headed in prison a long time ago
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To be not understood wrongly, i understand and accept all your arguments when you ask me, what i feel when i hear stories of such crimes. I believe itīs very natural when a human reacts like you do.

But to be honest all those natural human reactions are not the benchmark to estimate a society. Equity should be a guideline of a legal system. One task of a legal system is to safe the life of its citizens. Therefore a legal system has executives like police, investigation offices and of course judiciary. What does it mean ? Who is a citizen and who is not ? Whose life is to safe ? The life of a majority of decent people or does equity mean the lifes of all members of a society have to be defended ? If yes then it is hard to do it with horrifying criminals. But itīs worth to abide such rules for a modern society. Better than a legal system which allows to chopp off the hands of a thief or to hang a murderer. In such a case the society is in the same way insane like the offender. Itīs not wrong to name it old-fashioned, not modern.

One word to the housing and feeding costs. Each single day of a year a military machine burns senseless more money than all inmates cost in a year.
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I do not believe that the death sentences bring closure to the victims family.

My brothers, at ages 5 and 7 were murdered in VA. The man who did this would later serve time, be released and the day of his release he would be shot and killed.

Although he did not have the death sentence, he was murdered non the less. He had no life in the free world. He was out of prison for 5 hours before his death.

I have mourned the loss of two brothers I never knew. I saw the pain in my Father’s eyes each time he woke up and even when he laid dying in the hospital, he still felt that pain.

My mother still struggles with the loss. We all do.

There was never any closure. There never will be.

Some people believe they will feel better once the individual is put to death. Maybe they do, but I know in our case... it did not and will not heal the wounds that are inside our hearts. I don't see how it does make them feel better, the pain will always be there.
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Itīs sad to hear that you and your family made such experiences. I can imagine that nothing can heal the wounds the crime has done.
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