I have read this guy's webpage as well. Dang. Calls himself "subtle."

I do have to admit I like what he has said about jails in Texas.

I also looked at his work up from a psychologist.

It confirmed the "ME ME ME ME" attitude that his webpage shows as does his crime.

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For those who do not know about the crime and Thomas Bart Whitaker.



Murder Suspect 'Bart' Whitaker Arrested - Houston News Story - KPRC Houston




Then the sentencing of Mr Whitaker link on being found guilty.


Death Sentence Handed Down in Bart Whitaker Case - Associated Content

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This is the website I referred to...

minutes before six

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"I'm done with propagandists who are willing to use any issue - race, cost, deterrence - to spare murderers' lives. Their attempts to shame a country out of delivering justice are terrorism of the intellectual variety." Brian Hickey

"The right to bear arms is the right to be free."
A. E. Van Gogt
THe Weaponshop of Ishtar

I live very close to where his family lived. I know this story well.

I am not defending what he did, nor anti or pro stance on the DP here.

He has not been inside those walls that long, how I interpet the link you placed. He is searching his soul/ mind/spirit/intellect and reviewing his youth.
So, it would be all about me,me me as to his reasoning before and the crime. Now he is forced to face the fire and reflect.
One day maybe years, he may find the heinous crime he commited to his own family enough to a sudden reality fo what horrific thing he had done.

He was part man/boy sad stuff....

Oh also forgot to mention, much truth is in his remarks, how society is part of what some become, not his family just in general to look closely at ourselves..

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I am not certain that he will have the time you are thinking he needs. His case was just turned down for the first appeal, now it goes for the next step.
Odds are not looking good for him.

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"I'm done with propagandists who are willing to use any issue - race, cost, deterrence - to spare murderers' lives. Their attempts to shame a country out of delivering justice are terrorism of the intellectual variety." Brian Hickey

"The right to bear arms is the right to be free."
A. E. Van Gogt
THe Weaponshop of Ishtar

Being TX that may be true, I have heard of some on DR being there 25 yrs.

First appeal I think" normally is fast?

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Yes. With the Anti-terrorism bill and everything, there is darn near an express lane. No, not bloodthirsty, but it does seem that way. I do not mind if a case goes around. BUT I also want the process to go faster too.

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"I'm done with propagandists who are willing to use any issue - race, cost, deterrence - to spare murderers' lives. Their attempts to shame a country out of delivering justice are terrorism of the intellectual variety." Brian Hickey

"The right to bear arms is the right to be free."
A. E. Van Gogt
THe Weaponshop of Ishtar

Well 25 years is insane in itself, but to speed up to instant and appeals are back to back, not right either.

The AEDPA, is to me unconstitutional .... hummmm not fair. Last I remember there was a debate over that in 2005.

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There is no question of Barts guilt . He admits it in his blog . He admitted it on Television a few times .

His blog is both disturbing and a rare glimpse into the thoughts of a sociopath . So I say go for it Bart . Maybe there is something to be learned from his blog to help prevent another Bart .Some of what to look for before they do a lot of harm . Besides it is not helping his case at all . Then maybe he does not want to ? It is a thought . If I was appealing a case I sure would not be posting like that .

Now if Bart got LWOP he would probably not be blogging and have gruopies, hmm ever think of that ?



Moderator edited Did you know jail is for those accused of a crime and a waiting for trial / appearance in court and cannot make bond or bail. They have not been convicted of the charges they are being held on .

moderator edited It really is not all that surprising to me the most self righteous and whose urge to abuse and punish usually are not any differnt than those they condemn . As they say be careful what you wish for . OH yes I want a bunch of abused very troubled and angry people coming out of our prisons and or jails that will make us all safer ?
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What would you do if or maybe when you end up in TDCJ unit? It could happen to you . Would you still want torture and other abuse ? Don't say it won't , TX has over 2,300 felonies to choose from !

Moderator edited Then this whole lock em up toss the key and treat them less than human has not prevented crime .If anything the opposite . But I guess that is kind of hard to explain to some who only seek revenge for real or imagined things crimes or not .

By this thinking one would think TX would be the safest state in the nation it is almost dead last in that too .

Peanut a first appeal can take up to two years if not more . It is not just the DP but that there are lots of other cases to be heard as well and when the court will hear it . Not as simple as the " pros " say . and yes they can drag on . It gets very expensive part of a legal and moral argument against the DP .

moderator edited. I suppose if you let a very small number of messed up people bother you then you might have other problems . One board does not speak for all of those who deal with or have dealt with prison and the criminal (in) justice system

Here is a simple suggestion do not read that forum if it bothers you what a thought ! No one is forcing any one to read it .


A little more about
Bart

THOMAS BARTLETT WHITAKER’S DEATH SENTENCE UPHELD

THOMAS BARTLETT WHITAKER REVISITED


Look around the blog . An anti like me who can say some belong locked up and never let out .Most antis are by no means like what a few moderator editedtroubled people on one forum are like that is not rational or realistic.

Those few elsewhere do not speak for all or even 99% of antis . They speak for themselves . Is that hard to understand. It seems the issue is not the DP but the DR gruopies found elsewhere . They are a very rare type of seriously troubled person that have found the internet and a "safe place " to be vocal nothing more .

In the end that board is what the "pro" rants here are all about . Because they are banned there.

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Peanut I agree AEDPA is unconstitutional . If not when President Obama appoints a another SCOTUS Justice much of it will be over turned in fact a number of real pros, Bob Barr former GA ( R at the time in office ) among those . think it is unconstitutional . There should not be a express lane to the death house if have a DP . Or is it all really about revenge ?

As for Bart gruopies and the debate about the DP

This is a good start

Death-row inmates don't need pity, fame | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Columnist Jacquielynn Floyd | Dallas-Fort Worth News

This part speaks the best and I agree with the author .

"But as I grow older and less certain that I'm right about everything, I find it not especially troubling that Carlton Turner is still drawing breath. As long as the state keeps him – and other killers like him – locked up, that's good enough for me.

I don't begrudge capital offenders whatever life they can create for themselves during permanent incarceration. And Mr. Turner admits, by his own words, that as long as there is life, there's a spark of hope, a possibility of joy.

But I do begrudge them their swooning fan clubs, their adoring pen pals, their self-serving Web pages. I'm irked to the bone marrow by the fatuous know-it-alls who fawn over their jailhouse poetry or stage gallery exhibitions of their mediocre artwork.

I begrudge them their lionization by European wackos who make them out to be noble, gentle, suffering victims of the cruelest human rights oppression on the planet.

This is by no means a denigration of appellate lawyers, of religious activists, of people who genuinely believe the state simply ought not be in the execution business.

But the fashionable trend toward making heroes out of condemned killers seriously damages that cause. Do people really want to end the death penalty – or do they want to parade their coolness by mocking all us Texas barbarians? "


The part she states abut being less certain and right about everything is what I really like . Not being certain one is right all the time . That to me is the best reason to be opposed to the DP .

It takes more courage and humanity to say you are unsure or were wrong to than to never admit you are wrong !

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