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Texas and the Death Penalty

Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Baze v. Rees, a
case that has effectively imposed a national moratorium on the death
penalty since September. States are delaying executions until the high
court rules.

To get a sense of what's at stake as the high court considers the future
of capital punishment, I spoke with Texas Solicitor General R. Ted Cruz,
the state's top lawyer. Mr. Cruz is a rising star among conservative
jurists. He's a protg of former U.S. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, for
whom he clerked and, by the nature of his job, a leading defender of the
death penalty in Texas.

40 states have the death penalty on the books, but only 34 have carried
out executions since the Supreme Court permitted states to resume capital
punishment in 1976. None come close to Texas, which has carried out 405
executions over three decades. Virginia, with 98 executions, is a distant
2nd.

What accounts for this Lone Star peculiarity, that some find horrifying?

"When a sentence is legally and justly imposed, the state of Texas carries
it out," says Mr. Cruz. "And in the judgment of the Texas Legislature and
in the judgment of the significant majority of Texans, the death penalty
is fundamentally a matter of justice."

Attorneys for Ralph Baze maintain that Kentucky's protocol for lethal
injection -- the same three-drug protocol 37 states favor as a method of
execution -- violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against cruel and
unusual punishment.

Mr. Cruz authored an amicus brief for Texas, one of 20 states holding that
the protocol when properly administered is consistent with the
Constitution and modern standards of morality. While the court's ruling,
which is expected in July, may alter that protocol, it's unlikely five
justices will find the death penalty itself to be unconstitutional, as
some opponents hope.

In fact, it's possible that conservative justices wanted to hear Baze in
order to do precisely the opposite -- explicitly reject death penalty
challenges on the merits, rather than merely address the procedural issues
activist judges have seized on to thwart death penalty laws.

Victims, not policy issues, move Mr. Cruz. "I certainly understand that
people of good faith can disagree on this," he says. "But frequently when
those in the media or those in the legal profession or in the academic
world who are opposed to the death penalty are presenting their arguments,
one of the aspects that is strikingly missing is any consideration of the
nature and barbarity of the crimes these people commit and any genuine
consideration of the impact these crimes have on the victims' families."

That's certainly so in the case of Ralph Baze, who murdered a Kentucky
sheriff and deputy in a 1992 ambush, shooting both in the back. And it's
so in another death penalty case Mr. Cruz argued before the Supreme Court
last fall.

The facts about Jos Ernesto Medellin's role in the brutal gang rape and
murder of 2 teenage girls in Houston in 1993 are not in doubt. He gave a
written confession; a Texas jury found him guilty of murder in the course
of a sexual assault; then a judge sentenced him to death.

Though Mr. Medellin was born in Mexico, he lived most of his life in the
United States. At no time during his trial, sentencing or initial appeal
did he or his court-appointed attorneys assert any claims under the Vienna
Convention on Consular Relations. The convention requires a consular post
to be notified if a citizen of its nation is arrested.

Only after the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals affirmed Mr. Medellin's
conviction did he begin the series of federal appeals on the basis of the
Vienna Convention that arrived, ultimately, at the Supreme Court. The 2
issues the justices must address have far reaching implications for
American judicial and political systems.

The 1st issue is whether the rulings of a foreign tribunal -- the
International Court of Justice in The Hague -- can bind the U.S. justice
system. The ICJ has ruled that foreign-born defendants (including Mr.
Medellin) are entitled to review based on violations of the Vienna
Convention.

The 2nd issue is whether the president of the United States can compel
state courts to obey a foreign court. That's what President George W. Bush
asserted in 2005, after the ICJ issued its ruling, when he ordered the
Texas Court of Criminal Appeals to review Mr. Medellin's conviction.

The Texas court rejected Mr. Bush's order on constitutional grounds. In an
amicus brief filed in Medellin v. Texas, the Bush administration holds
that the court's action undermines presidential authority to determine
"how the United States will comply with its treaty obligations."

28 states along with Puerto Rico signed onto one brief supporting Texas
inMedellin. An ideologically diverse group of constitutional law scholars
joined in another. Former Attorneys General Ed Meese and Dick Thornburgh,
along with former Justice officials from the Reagan administration and
both Bush administrations, joined in yet another.

"It is an unusual case that features John Yoo and Erwin Chemerinsky on the
same side," Mr. Cruz notes. "It is an unusual case that features Ed Meese
and Jerry Brown, now attorney general of California, on the same side."

If there's a common thread in Baze and Medellin, it's a judicial challenge
to the will of the people consistent with the Constitution, as reflected
by the democratic process. "The Constitution gives democratically elected
legislatures the principal responsibility of making policy
determinations," says Mr. Cruz. "And before the Supreme Court, Texas has
frequently been defending the proposition that the federal courts should
respect the determinations of the democratically elected legislatures."

Even if support for capital punishment is declining in popularity
nationally, that's a cause that ought to be of concern to people outside
of Texas.

(source: Commentary; Mr. Gurwitz is a member of the editorial board of the
San Antonio Express-News)

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I'm not saying I'm for the Death Penalty but I'm not saying I'm against it.

Some questions:

If a DR person can be a productive member of society, how do we make that determination? Should they get life w/o or life with possibility of parole?

If lethal injection is cruel and unusual, then should we subject the person to the same method of death that they inflicted on their victim? Would that be more humane? Let's take a rape and murder, so we rape the condemned then kill them the way they killed their victim. More humane?

Should we adopt most other nation's abolishment of the death penalty?

If we adopt the option of no death penalty should there be possibility of parole?

If there is possibility of parole and the former offender is released and kills again, what then do we do and who is responsible?

Any thoughts?

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