Ich hatte auch nur gesagt der Sicherheitsdienst unterstützt die Justizvollzugsbeamten.Das in Hünefeld zählt als Halbprivatisiert.

Naja, man kann das ja im Volksmund halbprivatisiert nennen, spricht ja nichts dagegen. Rechtlich gesehen ist es natürlich eine JVA wie jede andere, nur daß Serco Auftragnehmer des hessischen Justizministeriums ist. Das bedeutet aber grundsätzlich nicht, daß Serco die selben Rechte hätte wie die Justizvollzugsbeamten. Und genau das macht den Unterschied zu amerikanischen Privatgefängnissen.

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das mit dem Unterschied ist mir schon klar,sollte auch nur als Hinweis dienen das es hier anders läuft.
Mein Interesse bezieht sich mehr auf das tdcj system mit dem ich mich auseinandersetze,bisher überwiegend von hier (außer bei Besuchen dort)ab ende des Jahres dann endgültig bis nächstes Jahr vor Ort.

Andreas your answer to my question is read with relief andam glad that my suspicious that Great Britain`s so close relationship with my country was spreading to the penal systems of Germany on U.S. initiatives is my mistake and misunderstanding of your constitution. Your description of what is allowed in relation with cooperation with the penal system in your country with a private company sounds like perhaps the inmates involved are paid for their work, am I right on this? I briefly touched on the subject of private prisons in a post not too long ago because of the violations of constitutional rights to the prisoners who are forced to labor on meager or no pay at all. The link that I sent to you tells about this better than I ever could in a lifetime. I thank you for your information Andreas, as I am now more convinced than ever, that no other country on earth, can be more rogue and criminal when it comes to prisoners right than my country. Even women with their children are being held in private prisons as I write this to you. Well perhaps someone will say that Iam wrong by not including third world countries.

Rolando, our penal system works a bit different than this in the states. Obviously, it´s in the nature of things that a prison is build to limit the personal freedom. This is what both have in common. You will find here also bars on the windows.
Responsible for the limitations of freedom can only be the state, the conclusion is that every CO is a civil servant/state official. They work for the justice department of the federal country the prison is in. No private company could do this, it´s forbidden by constitution. It means when a private company became allowed to take over some tasks in a prison then it doesn´t mean that their employees would have the same rights like the COs.
The main goals of our penal system is on one hand the limitation of freedom for an inmate and on the other hand the re-integration (in principle starts it on the first day). What no CO is allowed to do is to harm is the human life and dignity of an inmate in normal prison allday. The COs are obviously allowed to defend themselves if needed. But pictures like those i have seen in Lockdown or Lock Up are not imaginable here when heavily armed COs tried to recover the control over a prison (i guess it´s not the usual prison allday). A neighbour of me was for more than 5 years in a prison, he told me it was like in a pathfinder camp. I have no doubt he told the truth.
German inmates become often the possibility to work. And they earn obviously some money. Not much but i guess an american inmate would dream about. Work is part of the philosophy of our penal system, work simply decreases the violence readiness and when the inmates work for a better future or to have a more comfortable life in prison, why not ? When prisoners work for a company, i´m sure the company has to pay usual wages like in the free world. The justice department observes this. I´m not sure how much money the inmates get from their wage, i think it´s only a part. Psychological help is afaik offered in every prison to learn the inmates to have a future life without new offenses. Obviously do i not know the whole allday of a german prison, but that inmates are treated like animals or scumbags by prison staff, this would i exclude. The inmate has too much rights to fight against.

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Rolando, when you want to smirk a bit and to know what kind of work inmates here can do, check this.

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This information is very interesting indeed Andreas. By what I can see and the link you sent me to show what inmates do for work in your country is really a joke, compared to what this country does to its inmates. I will give you an example of what I witnessed the last time I was in a prison here in Wisconsin where I live. The example is a legal one. When a person, say me for example, commits a crime in my state, I am punished by the stateand sent to prison for breaking a law of the state. With all the overcrowding of prisons in every state in the country, private prisons are charging overcrowded ones to take some of its prisoners and hold them in these private prisons. Prisoners are shipped to these private prisons where they work for the corporations that run the prisons. pretty cool eh?
Even if a prisoner did not commit a crime in a state where he is shipped to, it makes no difference. I say your prison system is a joke because in this country, if a prisoner is caught with any item you showed me in the link, which inmates in your country make, here it would be contraband to have such items in one possession. To be totally honest, I have no direct knowledge of what prisoners in private prisons here do, for work assignments. I thing I do know, they get no compensation, or a crumb to be exact. I enjoyed reading your post Andreas and is always nice to read the information you provide.