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Old 05-07-2008, 12:16 AM
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Here in Germany we havenīt the problem with such a punishment, DP is non-existent in our legal system. For me itīs a bit hard to comprehend why DP is "so important" for the US. Whenever there was any activity in the past by the EU to accomplish a moratorium for death penalty, it never found open ears on US delegates. I think itīs very old-fashioned like the constitutional right to own weapons.
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i guess that's why we people from europe or so be concernd in man/woman on death row.
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Andreas I think that’s probably a pretty fair/accurate statement and it actually applies to several of our laws here in the states. We tend to just allow things to go uncontested even though we, as American citizens, have every right to change or at least limit the current practice. Much of our judicial system is based on the presumption that we are still living under English common-law and it has not been updated since that time! It’s not very practical or realistic in many cases.
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Asha, for myself i compared the german law system with the systems of our neighbours in Europe and i can see that there are to find nearly the same systems. I think it is the case because all these countries have nearly the same ideals/moral concepts. I think the US donīt differ at that point, thatīs why itīs a bit hard to comprehend why there should be no possibility to update/modernize the US law system (at that point).
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I’m not really certain either except that laws do not change here effectively overnight. We very often cling to antiquated systems of justice and morality but it’s not only the US you must understand. Common law legal systems are in widespread use, particularly in those nations which trace their legal heritage to Britain, including the United Kingdom, the United States and Canada, and other former colonies of the British Empire.
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William Lynd Georgia I did see they did put him to death on 6th. I think really death penalty should be abolished it takes up alot of court time, and funds that could be better used. washingtonpost.com
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Heya Cherokee! Asha waves!
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The Washington post article if you read it carefully say something that shoud be frightening to every one it goes well beyond the Death penalty Chef Justice John Roberts wants to limit appeals . That is very troubling . He is not really concerned about guilt or innocence only that the state has tremendous power to incarcerated a person and even kill them if it so desires .His reasoning implies the state is perfect never makes a mistake . prosecutors CSI types , and cops never break the law to obtain a conviction and there are not any innocent people in prison .
It really does sem as if the real hard core states are making up for lost time
I sow this quote of pro death penalty / “victims rights group spoke person this some scary thinking

“We’ll start playing a little bit of catch-up,” said William R. Hubbarth, a spokesman for Justice for All, a victims rights group based in Houston.
“It’s not like we have a cheering section for the death penalty.” Mr. Hubbarth said. But, he added: “The capital murderers set to be executed should be executed post-haste. It’s not about killing the inmate. It’s about imposing the penalty that 12 of his peers have assessed.”

Hi say he is not a “cheering section for the Death penalty then in the same sentence sae they should execute those convicted posthaste as in right away !

A link to the article if you want to read it
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/us...cZ0xAvsyr515ZA

another link to Justice for All I think people should know just who is pro death penalty and how dangerous some of them are to all of our freedoms this group if is a cheering section for executions Period The spokes person should be honest about it and say they want more executions who gives a damn about innocence or guilt jut kill some one and it will make everything right . If they told the truth maybe just maybe it would scare the daylights out of most of us they want revenge plain and simple not justice

Justice For All - A Criminal Justice Reform Organization


It looks like there will be more added to the list of pending executions as the year goes by and at the same time we are seeing increasing exonerations . These types find it acceptable for innocent people to go to prison !

BTW their so called "facts ' are very wrong there has been at least 25 innocent men exonerated from DR by the Innocence project alone.
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A little back ground on the this Hubbarth guy. He seems to be Morbidly excited about upcoming executions . We should know who MR Hubbarth and his organization really are .

William R. Hubbarth an attorney and vice president of legislative affairs at Justice For All, an Austin-based pro-death penalty organization..Hubbarth is also a former counsel for the parole division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. who opaquely states that his own family was the subject of a violent crime and who used to write case summaries for the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles during presentations arguing for clemency for death-row inmates

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"Some of these people don't deserve to be breathing the same air as me."
and in this interesting little exchange with exonerated men
a quote by Hubbarth from a committee hearing at the Texas Legislature:
" JFA representative Rusty Hubbarth, testifying to Texas legislators last year on a proposal for a moratorium on executions, was asked by one lawmaker, "Rusty, you're not in favor of executing innocent people, are you?"

"Not this week," Hubbarth joked.

The humor was probably lost on two men in attendance that day. Randall Adams and Kerry Cook had collectively spent more than a decade in prison for crimes they didn't commit -- they'd both come within hours of execution. "

Crime-victims advocate William Rusty Hubbarth of Justice for All argued against Dutton's moratorium proposal.
"You would be denying closure and solace to the victims. You would be denying the belief in due process. And you would be denying the application of a mandated justice," Hubbarth said.


Hubbarth has filed amicus breif defending the death penalty even if a INNOCENT person is executed!
Just a little bit about MR Hubbarth So people know just what he is and what his agenda really is More executions faster and with more chance a innocent person being executed he is not at all interested in justice ,but a bitter man who has become just what he claims to be against .It very possible if not a reality MR Hubbarth has allowed innocent Human beings to be executed would that not make him every thing he claims to despise? A person who premeditates a killing?
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