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Old 09-07-2009, 11:35 AM
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Most evil and Wicked Attraction come in Discovery ID and are both VERY INTERESTING Documentaries.
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I would love to see that documentary,Stone Scale.

I have seen and read interviews and it something is missing and no remorse at all. Good to know someone is going the step further to search for reasons of the development inside the human.

So even they believe it is possible the soul could be heavily hurt or ill too. I wonder if like a birth defect could even be born w/o one at all. How would one be able to research something not tangible, yet most of us would agree call it a soul, spirit or whatever it is there.

I would love to see that documentary will remember the title,"Stone Scale" for sure.
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I would love to see that documentary,Stone Scale.

I have seen and read interviews and it something is missing and no remorse at all. Good to know someone is going the step further to search for reasons of the development inside the human.

So even they believe it is possible the soul could be heavily hurt or ill too. I wonder if like a birth defect could even be born w/o one at all. How would one be able to research something not tangible, yet most of us would agree call it a soul, spirit or whatever it is there.

I would love to see that documentary will remember the title,"Stone Scale" for sure.

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It is called 'Most Evil' here. It does come on ID channel. I've got direct tv and I get this program.

It is an eye opener, especially when he talks about people like manson, and bizarre serial killers.
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Skye, you found the definive right word: it´s really an eye-opener. I like to learn as much as possible about psychology (i do it since some years), maybe you understand the eye i see the world with. Robert Ressler was the man who started that interest in me.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:55 AM
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I like Most Evil with Dr. Stone because he tells you what they did and almost why by interpreting their mind.

His scale of evil is not a random scale , a lot of research went into it.

He also breaks down psychological reasons as to why and how. Specifically when he talks about remorse and rehabilitation.
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Thank You Adreas for the link to the scale of evil.

As SKye stated, we do have the Discovery Channel Program, Most Evil, this is the first time I saw this scale.Very interesting.
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Jon 's theory is not at all a theory it is a real disorder called Hybristophilla. By what these groupies write not just on one site it they fit it very well . They do not seek out the guy on DR who is there say do to TX law of parties that made him a party to the crime and they generally do not seek out the guy who unintentionally killed a person in a botched robbery meaning they shot out of nervousness and or fear that does not make it right but it is not a inconceivable act . . They seek out the women and child killers , the high profile psychopaths .

That is why I use Bart as a example a lot he has a cult like following that in some ways eerily resembles the Manson family . He is very superficially charming to them , very intelligent. articulate ,and completely void of human emotion . If you watch his interviews he went on Oprah , other national news shows a few times ( interviewed at Polunsky ) and is mad because he cold retold how he had his family killed as if he was gong to get gas and a a six pack He is complaining the news media made him look bad No Bart you did that all by yourself seeking attention You got it just not what you wanted stop whining. You couldn't manipulate or deceive seasoned journalists and investigative reporters shocking !

I have no doubts that a number of his cult could carry out murders on his “command “ If he were to plan it . The frightening part is until either TDCJ discovers something in his mail or something does happen because of him and his cult there is little that can be done beyond fully reading and copying his mail . Which they do .

Now that There is no doubt that TX Executed an innocent man These groupies and wackos will conflate that into too their favorite homicidal psychopath . With Sharon Keller and all the other problems with TX justice that are becoming public . It gives more than enough credibility to feed their delusions .

Sadly this just cause more problems for those who really need help because the groupies offend people who are not “Tuff on Crime tm” and know something is wrong and need fixing .When they see this behavior they say “lock em up and toss they key” because of the worship and glorification of the most heinous and evil killers .

That I why I doubt these groupies and that includes those disturbed sick individuals on another site who “support” those who have committed horrific killings not just on DR but have going the realms that are shown in the link Andreas provided about them .

Going on a tour to see a few high profile DR prisoners who committed those types of acts is sick .

Serial marrying rapist killers , child killers and predatory pedophile killers is very sick I would put these women on the Evil scale too .

How do you rehabilitate some thing like that in order to rehabilitate they have to have once been “normal” to some degree apparently they never were. Most people in prison come nowhere near those guys . All convicts both incarcerated and ex con get lumped in with these homicidal psychopaths (Oh I mean nice misunderstood guys who need love and affection ) . I noticed They all really believe their delusions that is very scary .

I would rather spend my money on those who can be rehabilitated and just lock these guys away in some super max let them have limited freeworld contact lawyer immediate family known before arrest and incarceration only . They can talk about their homicidal fantasies and other delusions in the day room 24 /7 for all I care . As long as they never ever leave .

Not all those on DR are like this and should be kept separate from them if we have A DP or if we have LWOP

Better still all other offenders should not be subjected them .It is not at all “fun " nor they are not “nice guys" . It is beyond punishment to make other offenders work where they are housed . The psychopaths and a other beyond rehabilitation types can find a life meaning and purpose in repairing their own damage and cleaning up their own messes after make them .



I am wondering if a many of of thme had a parent with Borderline Personality Disorder . When you are involved with a BPD .When you do not meet their unrealistically high expectations what out as all hell will break lose in one way or another often in the from of severe psychological abuse . Often some form temporary abandonment .

Not meeting unrealistic expectations of a parent is a common theme with these killers
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ASE, is there anther spelling for the word you gave??? Hybristophilla is not bringing up anything?
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Try this .
Hybristophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The easy to understand version .

It is very frightening. Thre are two versions one is passive where thy are satisfied with just having some sort of contact usually mail and controlled visits and phone .

Then there is the aggressive version where they will act out their homicidal delusions in some sort of very sick and deadly partnership with the man .regardless of him being free or incarcerated .

I think Some of Bart's cult members / gruopies are the aggressive version amnd wil act out o if asked or belive someone is "harmful" to Bart
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A few have complained when TDCJ banned them from all contact and threatened to sue TDCJ
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Interesting, on reading other articles just now too, then the aggressive (groupie type)hybristophilia, does have the same traits of sociopath.

Meaning no empathy, remorse or actually real love.
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