Here's a link to yesterdays Ohio execution

- NewsRunner


The end is very important.

"His pain has ended," she said of Fautenberry. "Mine hasn't. Mine will only end when I'm gone."

So sad, and one of the reasons im 100% Pro death penalty

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Hmm, has the execution something changed on the victim´s mother pain ? If not, what was the sense of that punishment ?

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Not sure of her pain being removed but I know of another case where the victims father said, 'they say execution doesn't make anyone feel better, but Im feeling much better after this.' It seems to help some.

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Most victims families, where they comment publicly at all, seem to say that the execution did not bring the "closure" so often talked about by pro-DP individuals, and the closure that the victim's family had come to expect from the event.

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is the death penalty designed to bring closure? i thought it was to be meant as the ultimate punishment

The victims mother has said that her pain only can come to an end when she´s gone. The society was secured from the offender because he was behind bars. The question stays what the sense of that punishment was.

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I guess some of us need the ancient, more ultimate form of punishment.

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For those who feel it is finally over as the victims, he/she is off the face of this earth,or are they really feeling, it has been a long wait to get to the execution itself too?
Gives them too, as well as the one up for execution to much time to think. Thats torture for either side to me.





Victims being touchered again, another reason I am anti DP.

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I think it is intended to be the ultimate punishment, but the closure thing is what many pro-DP commentators claim is the case when challenged on why they think it is a good idea. Personally, I feel that using someone else's misfortune and pain to justify one's own wishes is just as abhorrent as the crimes committed by those facing the death penalty. I dont feel the victims should have any input into sentencing at all.

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I agree . the only things that belong in the court room in at a trail are the law ,all evidence , and cold hard facts no matter where they fall .
Emotinms have no place in a trial . It needs to be taught that the prosecution speaks for the victim/s . We might as well give up any pretense of Justice and take any one who might be guilty out and shoot them to satisfy some ones need for revenge . At the rate the so called "tough on crime" whack jobs are going . That is not what our (US) system was designed to do.

There is no such thing as closure . It is a myth . No matter what any one says the pain and grief of a loss like that never goes away hell losing a loved one to a terminal illness never leaves you .

The "closure" myth - Salon.com

"For victims' families who oppose the death penalty, as well as for some who support it but derived little comfort from the execution of their loved ones' killers, it's a myth that the death penalty heals. They say the pop-psych media formula, that catharsis equals closure, has been mostly created by a society desperate to believe that even the worst wrongs can be righted.

"It's amazing to me to think that anyone could truly believe that sitting and watching another human being be murdered could heal them, but I did," says Oregon anti-death-penalty activist Aba Gayle. For eight years after Douglas Mickey murdered her 19-year-old daughter Catherine in 1980, "I was in such a state of anger and rage, I was lusting for revenge." It's a lust, she says, that was encouraged by the prosecuting attorney. "The district attorneys are very careful to let you know they're there for you. They tell you, 'We're going to convict him, and when he is executed, everything's going to be OK. It's a magic bullet they're offering to all of these victims' families."



That does not mean we have to go to the other extreme and glorify flaunt, have fan clubs for them ,call them nice thoughtful guys when they are obviously guilty and did horrific things .
One can be Anti DP and never want them out and think they are monsters

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