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Old 09-30-2009, 07:13 PM
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To be honest Smiley a lot of what you say is very different from a what any one who has done time or is very familiar with prison . It is as if there is a huge disconnect between what we lived and what you say goes on .

Please comparing a place like that to any TDCJ unit is ridiculous , not even close . .
I was not comparing so sorry if i gave out that impression, i was simply clarifying because of comments made by yourself, because not only do i feel you have a misunderstanding of what i have shared in the past, but comparisons should NOT be made for anyone serving time like i said it is all relevant to THEM no matter what system you find yourself serving time in.

I discuss many comments here from yourself and others with prisoners (as i have shared before) trying to get their perspective and i also read many of these posts out to my mate who has done 20 years and is still serving time because it helps me understand many comments and perspectives shared making good discussions. We talk in depth DAILY and many times i express on the forum what he is feeling and the thoughts of others that have not only served time with him but those in different states. I do share my personal thoughts also from the understanding i have because of them and the knowledge i have gained from not only working here in the system for years, but actively helping outside my own country within the prison system, and you are right i have not served time, but does that take away from the information i have gained through others serving time, the work i do and me living precariously through another still serving time?

You have shared many times about your time served, but not ALL have the same experiences as yourself, nor do they have the same thought process. Inside or out of prison we may experience the same as another, but feel differently based on our beliefs, values, ethnic back ground, age, understanding etc etc. I am simply trying to share, not making comparisons, like i have said i am sorry if you feel otherwise.
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The way seg is run currently , if done correctly it is very difficult for them to kill. Yeah they might cause minor injuries but . From What I saw on Polunsky DR, I worked there routinely as my "job" .No they are not going to kill any one very easily it would y take a a few very dirty bosses to help them . They essentially never come into contact with any one unrestrained . and with modification of cell doors and resrticing what they can have no toothpaste tube or other containers act up enough and you lose all but a small pencil and paper a few stamps and envelops .


Same would go for the AD MAX or places like Pelican bay or Eyman SMU in AZ Tamm s and other max and super max facilities . Plenty of trouble they can cause but kill not very likely . Seg in those places is as close to total isolation as it gets .
Didnt you say a while back that you saw someone get killed while you worked on polunsky??
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Yeah. Plead guilty and hope the judge is feeling generous.

Of course, he probably won't be.
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well one thing is for sure. they wont ever get out. that is one thing you can count on.
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To clarify Iwas on both Ellis and Polunsky Also . Polunsk has a GP and not every one spends 23 / 7 in their cells many do on Polunsky because it is intended for that . Even the manipulative psychopath Bart Whitaker now states that there is a GP there . Well he had to when photos were released . So it is convient to say there is not a GP and SSIs when it suites the gruopies needs but there is when Bart& friends need more money? Also the "go" ( they give their order to a boss ) to store 2 x a month not weekly in all TDCJ units . DR level 1 s can spend the full $ 80 level 2 and 3 much less

In order or the unit to run unit needs trusties. Because TDCJ relies very heavily on prisoners to do almost all but security health care and and administrative work all unpaid . Some even drive TDCJ vehicles to deliver stuff not offers obviously Polusnky and has everything from G1 - DR that means trusties to the worst of the wrost .

No the person I saw killed was A not in seg B on Ellis a differnt Unit . Where DR was before it got moved to Polunsky and DR offenders could mix with population . Due to escape attempt many assaults and a few murders DR got moved to Seg on 12 bldg on Polunsky . He was killed by a shank and one convict did it not a bunch of monsters . The whole thing lasted less than 5 minutes .

I got moved to Polunsky prior to DR going there because they needed more convicts to do work .

People often wrongly assume or are told by misleading sites Polunsky is solely DR . It is a max security unit A max security prison can have every level of offender . What you read on Groupie Talk tm is not all that accurate and lot of BS is told to get money for store .

In TDCJ at any rate DR ad seg convicts would have a very hard time killing they can casue a lot of trouble but kill not likely
a prisoner not in seg DR or can kill as they have much more freedom to move around .

Also way OT but but a lot of the stuff I have read about Polunsky recently is pure fiction . It is a very tough harsh place but some make out to be something out of movie . Just because a few high profile psychopaths make stuff up and it is posted on a well known site does not make it true .
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Yeah. Plead guilty and hope the judge is feeling generous.

Of course, he probably won't be.
ASE, no take the plea bargain.
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Was not wanting Ase to take any plea bargin. It was for the guys in Chicago.

The monsters that killed the young man who is the subject in this thread.

He leaves behind a hole in a lot of people's hearts.
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He does leave a hole in many hearts, a life on a good path gone.
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This whole mentality of "Stop Snitching" that a lot
of young people have needs to end.
When you see a crime taking place talk to the police.
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I agree Theotherlondon, that "stop snitching" needs to end, just another form of control and manipulation fear.
Call the police if you are witnessing a crime....
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