Originally Posted by English Gentleman

That's all very well and good, but lets play Devils advocate

if the inmate has changed and shows remorse, and is rehabilitated and trying to do good for the right reason then yes let them try and help others by example.But what about those who have not changed,what about those who cannot be helped, have NO intention to change,show no remorse for their crime.

Terrorists who no matter what are intent to spread hate and condone the murder of innocent people and brainwash children strapping bombs to themselves to become suicide bombers?

Would you really want to read a blog by people who advocate, death and mass murder like they did on 9/11..? or peverted sex offenders , preaching their "views",are you saying it's ok for people like that to try and make themselves the victim and gain sympathy ..?


Are you saying it is perfectly alright for kids,or even adults who have been abused or sexually molested to have the added nightmare of seeing their tormentor writing his blog , making himself out to be a poor victim of the prison system .?

Isn't the whole concept of prison to be a deterrant, and a punishment to be harsh in a way that stops anyone from wanting to commit crime and to punish those that do.?

Don't the victims have rights to..?

Originally Posted by English Gentleman

i know i certainly don't want to be a member of this forum if certain members codone and wax lyrical about the rights of those who commit murder,terrorist activities,spreading racial hatred or child molestation and treat those who perpertrate such crimes as the poor victim of the penal system. when they are rightly being punished for what they did. The offender had a choice NOT to commit crime, the Victim didn't choose to be a victim.

One day it might happen to you, i wonder if your opinion will change then..?

Originally Posted by UKGAL

If a victims family found a blog by the offender, could they report it and have it stopped?
I dont think all offenders have the right to have blogs or whatever. I know the victims familys dont have to look at them, but i dont think its fair that the offender gets to whine on about how bad prison is. they all know the penalties for the crimes they commit.

Originally Posted by SikkiNixx

I know a few inmates sites to have been reported and shut down, especially the Myspace ones. So yes they can and have been.

Originally Posted by English Gentleman

That's all very well and good, but lets play Devils advocate

if the inmate has changed and shows remorse, and is rehabilitated and trying to do good for the right reason then yes let them try and help others by example.But what about those who have not changed,what about those who cannot be helped, have NO intention to change,show no remorse for their crime.

Terrorists who no matter what are intent to spread hate and condone the murder of innocent people and brainwash children strapping bombs to themselves to become suicide bombers?

Would you really want to read a blog by people who advocate, death and mass murder like they did on 9/11..? or peverted sex offenders , preaching their "views",are you saying it's ok for people like that to try and make themselves the victim and gain sympathy ..?


Are you saying it is perfectly alright for kids,or even adults who have been abused or sexually molested to have the added nightmare of seeing their tormentor writing his blog , making himself out to be a poor victim of the prison system .?

Isn't the whole concept of prison to be a deterrant, and a punishment to be harsh in a way that stops anyone from wanting to commit crime and to punish those that do.?

Don't the victims have rights to..?

Originally Posted by smiley

This will not go down well with many, but i will be honest anyway. As far as "terrorist acts" and "terrorists," some people do have a sincere belief that what they are doing is right, that they are protecting their own, fighting a "war" much like what we have seen in the past. They do not see themselves as others may see them, they are the victims in their eye's. It is not a ploy to gain sympathy, it is their BELIEF. It all depends on who is doing the looking. They believe WE are evil and go to great lengths to protect and destroy what they see as a threat....... US.....Just like we have done in times of war. This is their war and innocent lives will always be lost both sides of the fence as we witnessed across the globe for centuries. I am sorry but although i disagree with their teachings and acts, i cannot honestly sit here and say one is above another, it is like choosing a religious belief.

Terrorist whether they believe what they are doing is right, we cannot give them the opportunity to give out on the internet messages to commit more terrorist attacks against society,no matter what. first and foremost to all countries best interest is security these are terrorist...
The white man came here and slaughtered thousands of natives, settled and colonized the land, enslaved and oppressed the black communities, much like they have done world wide, believing they were doing what was right at that time for their own. You cannot look into another culture and expect them to have the same set of beliefs, holding them to your/our standards. You cannot have one without the other.


Look at what many are teaching their own in your own back yard, that guns, drugs, violence, pornography, prostitution, promiscuity are all acceptable, just look at the games kids play on xbox. If you do not want to partake in any of that, what do you do? You CHOOSE not to read, watch, participate, also having the ability to report such things to authorities. So yes my choice would be to let others have freedom of speech until it is deemed inappropriate and unacceptable and then have the sites shut down. I would rather see that than be silenced altogether.

You ask about whether a person who has abused another, sexually has a right to blog, playing the "victim of the prison system." My answer is yes, because if we start putting restrictions (verbal) on people based on their crimes i believe from all i know and have experienced myself you will do a disservice to the many that contribute in a positive way in our communities like peanut shared about her friend. If you ask how i would feel if i read anothers thoughts online that had abused me crying wolf, i no doubt would be angered thinking people were believing the "crap" but who am i too say this person is not experiencing those emotions, no matter what crime took place?

Yes prison is a place of punishment and no doubt should be, but from all i have seen, experienced and come to learn it is not a deterrent, because like another has shared, it is full of addicts, people with mental health issues and many that become victims them self because of the system, including first time offenders and if prison itself was a deterrent there would not be so many in prison today as we see. Just like if the Death Penalty was a deterrent there would not be so many on the row and if longer sentences were a deterrent you wouldn't have so many people every day being sentenced to longer sentences.

It is proven without a doubt, prison nor the DP has been any deterent,as the pro DP side uses.
On the opposite side of the coin the anti's throw out "an eye for an eye makes the world go blind".
From what I understand this is a mis -quote, historically inaccurate and nonsense being used in the anti DP context. The quote makes sense in it's orginal historical context.


Do the victims have rights to? ABSOLUTELY.....but how do we get a perspective of the prisoners point of view if we do not allow him to speak? Of course there will be people that would/will exploit the blog, the same way that there are people that will try to exploit you writing a self help book, when they are only in it for the money, not trying to help you. While there will be people that will try to genuinely help you and are not in it for the money, but both sides of the coin are ALWAYS TRUE, even when we are talking about prisoners. So while some will try to exploit the situation there will be others that will be providing us with a true insight that we cannot get from anywhere else, and that insight is what ultimately will help us find some of the answers to the many questions we have. Because in order to find the cure we have to always look at the symptoms as well as the cause, so we will always need the prisoners prospective as well as the victims.

Originally Posted by peanut2