Ok this is a loaded topic, yet I cannot believe the turmoil and disrespect gong on toward a now President.

Everyday in the news one thing after another. Now this Pastor preaching such hate toward a President.
A "Pastor" preaching and inciting hate and hoping for the death of a President. Stating God hate's him, and hopes he gets brain cancer like Ted Kennedy, etc.
Knowing in his position he could cause someone "a loose cracker" to do harm and take literally an attempt against a President???.
Our Preachers are now openly delivering death speeches to who they do not agree and hate to our kids too.
This "Pastor",( loosely titled) is spreading hate/death not solutions ??? New age religion or what ??

The schools who will not allow in some schools, the Presidents speech to the young of staying in school...what is going on? Seems our school leaders need to go back to school themselves.

While the President is giving a speech to Rep/Dems one yells out he is a liar????

President needs to get tougher, he needs to tell these schools they will cut off money maybe that will get respect?

Many churches are wondering why folks shying away from organized religion, losing members, guess this is a good example of the why's.

This is just to much to believe ............

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IMHO, Americans are much less disrespectful today verses 5-10 years ago.
I believe its the "I want it now" of our society.
Not gonna say if I am pro or anti President Obama but I believe that the office of the President should be respected. Both past Dem and Rep Presidents have been the subject of too many negative press reports and many presidents "told falsehoods" to the press. I am tired of the bashing of the United States.

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When some one earns the office of the President, we are supposed to give that person the respect that the office earns. In these days, the president is considered to be the end all be all. he is not, but he still holds the office and the title, MR president. This country was based and founded on the idea of free speach. This means that you can openly dislike the president, and not end up looking for a pen pal on this site. The Democrats and Republicans need a wake up call. If I was a congressional offical and yelled liar, during the presidents speach, i would expect my mother to slap me right in the back of the head. My parents taught me that respect is earned, and that until I am shown that a person doesn't garner my respect thru reprehensable actions. Years back, the two party system, that we have here was shaken by a third party canidate getting more than .05% of the popular vote. I personally did not agree with him, but, again that is my right. Bashing of the US is a reality. the american people, me included, have brought it on ourselves. We do not go to the polls in numbers, we do not stand up for what we truly feel in our hearts. I still remember when you could vote a straight ticket. That should never have been allowed.

The President, is trying to fix a problem. He is trying to work with a system that is so wrapped up in image, that it can not even take steps of progress with out childish temper tantrums. He is doing a fine job, so far. If these pastors and "leaders" want to make a stand, then do so in the right way. Start by showing what they can get done by voting and organizing. take a lead from the Labor Unions of the 1800's thru the 1940's. Be bold, do not be afraid to organize and point out your own positives. It is sad, when we have to resort to the old name calling of 3rd grade. pardon my horrid spelling

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In the end....it does just that

Freedom of speech is one thing but, to play on the edge as this Pastor is, is close to a threat. Sure the FBI and Secret Service will be watching close.

Obama has not been in office long, he is trying to get things done and has a mess, he needs to be more of an ahole or they will eat his lunch. He also needs to ignore the crackers.

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Pray for Our Leaders
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 KJV
I have no opinion on this verse. This is just what is says. My father who is a good man pointed it out to me. He voted for McCain. He prays for Obama in a loving way.
Thankfully, Spirituality found me and really showed me how to love my fellow man.

If you insult the queen here in Holland you go to jail, weird that punishments are here and not with you in US, normally it's just the other way arround.
And if you kick the queen in her b*t you get life, believe it or not it really stand in the law haha

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New age religion?.......I think not, what it is in my opinion is one man in this particular instance, a "Pastor" using his soap box as a sounding board to all in the congregation that will listen, it is ONE man expressing his own personal view point, just like any where else in life you will get followers that will angrily disagree with what is being preached as you would fellow Pastors, then some that would fully agree. I think you should have freedom of speech, but i also think that people such as himself can cause a lot of damage to many lives with the choices i support. Meaning the ability to say how you feel. Look at many other "religious/spiritual" followers that have ruined and taken many lives by their teachings and preachings.

It is sad to hear, but what i like to try to remember is it is a select group of people. Recently a young guy (prisoner) i know through my mate had been writing a young girl in her 20's who's father is a preacher, all had been going well for months the father even speaking briefly to the young man. Then the young girl writes back stating her dad had been preaching in Church more and more directing sermons to her about the influences in one's life. He was basically giving the young girl a hard time because of her involvement with this man. Her dad is saddened by her choices, and the young man even more so by the attitude of the father. So he came to my mate for help, together they wrote her father. My mate was telling me how much the attitude of this young man had changed, how his spirits were lifted, how more settled he seemed all because he had someone that sincerely cared about him for the first time in his young life. Sometimes i wonder if these people of the cloth who practice and stand for forgiveness, love and mercy truly understand/know what that means? Then i guess life is the way in which we view things, some could see the father as protecting his daughter, others thinking he is not walking the talk when it comes to the crunch of forgiveness and love he so readily preaches on his Sunday services.

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Yes smiley, this Pastor" reminds me of the new age religion mentality..


what is New age Religion?
New Age Religion is not a religion at all, but a vast syncretism (or mixing) of numerous religious and philosophical ideas. This has been going on since the time of Alexander the Great, but was snuffed out under Christianity and its enforced dogma starting around 325 AD. Alexander's vast empire opened the door for Eastern religion and mysticism to move West, while Greek philosophy and reason moved East. Today the same process continues, but on a global scale in particular with the internet.
It has some similarities to ancient Gnosticism adopting both its methods and its individual nature. Most often rejecting reason and science, New Age religion more than anything is emotional, filing in a void left by a secular culture and discontent with traditional religious beliefs. Modern environmentalism could be broadly classified into New Age religion becuase of its treatment as a pseudo-religion and diefication of Nature. See the links below.

Introduction The New Age Movement is in a class by itself. Unlike most formal religions, it has no holy text, central organization, membership, formal clergy, geographic center, dogma, creed, etc. They often use mutually exclusive definitions for some of their terms. The New Age is in fact a free-flowing spiritual movement; a network of believers and practitioners who share somewhat similar beliefs and practices. Their book publishers take the place of a central organization; seminars, conventions, books and informal groups replace of sermons and religious services. Quoting John Naisbitt (1):



What is new age religion?

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I agree with Peanut and the other posters that the constant haranguing of the President in this country is tragic (the schools speech was so over the top as to leave one at a loss for words) and infuriating to the max. I love President OBama (even though I dont agree with everything he has done, i agree with much of it). The vitriole against him by certain right wing elements just shows their spiritual bankruptcy and emotional immaturity. Led by hate radio and Fox Noise, I fear our President will be murdered and pray for his safety every time it comes to mind. Being an out gay man, I have experienced, in a small way, some of the irrational vitriole that is being directed towards him. It all just makes me very sad and embarassed for my society.

Interestingly, my mother (who is 88) says conservatives treated FDR the same way, right down to the calls in the media for his death.) There was even a term for it, the Roosevelt Haters! So our new President is in good company.

I will do everything I can to continue to support him and his very important work. He already has my vote for 2012.

They also had that BS going around he was not born in the US, that has been proven bs, now that is over it is one thing after another.

Next they had him stating he was going to kill all the elderly lol not true obviously, and I am surprised when someone or group starts a bash how naive some can be, or want to believe and jump on the wagon.

Yes, Obama is in good company same thing happened to FDR.

For or against President Obama, he was voted in and he should have support, not agreement with all but, respect he deserves. He has only been in office a short time, and he did not create this mess. Seems everyone wants fast and to each individual need, results now now now...lol This country seems to be against change, including wall street making the same mistakes already over and over again....

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