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Old 09-15-2008, 06:11 PM
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It is painful to re-read all of the information posted that I have some first-hand knowledge of regarding the KKK. But, as I said before, I still forgive them all.

It is extremely difficult and painful. At times the hate wants to consume me as well as the anger, but if I let that happen and act on it, then I would be no better than he is and the rest of them are. Anything I say or do in response to the KKK killings and things I have read about the KKK would be considered a hate crime, an act of violence, horrendous, racial, racism, etc. They would be right and I would be just like them!

Hate cannot consume us. Anger cannot consume us. Revenge is what? Once the people responsible are put to death, who will feel better and why I wonder? Is that how we handle crimes that involve death? "You kill my friend or lover or family member and I will kill yours or ask someone else to do it because it is only fair, after all you killed first and killing is illegal and wrong!

Yet, gang members kill, KKK kill, serial killers kill do we judge them all the same? They all should die? Who will be left? Who is their judge and jury? Us? Why?

I have also heard that the punishment should fit the crime. That is the way it was done in the olden days. Is that the way we should do it now? Let the punishment fit the crime?

When does the killing end?

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The indictment affidavit filed January 24, 2007, in U.S. District Court in Jackson, charged Seale with two counts of kidnapping and one count of conspiracy. The “introductory allegations” begin: “The White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (WKKKK) operated in the Southern District of Mississippi and elsewhere, and was a secret organization of adult white males who, among other things, targeted for violence African Americans they believed were involved in civil rights activity in order to intimidate and retaliate against such individuals.” The document says that Seale and other Klan members suspected Dee of being involved with civil rights activity. Moore was included because he was a friend of Dee.[11]

Seale was arraigned and denied bond because he is considered a flight risk: He owned no property, was a pilot, and lived in a motor home, which he and his wife used to leave Roxie, for a brief time, after the reporting team's initial July 2005 visits, according to Roxie residents. Primary testimony was from fellow Klansman Charles Marcus Edwards who, after being confronted by Thomas Moore and David Ridgen during filming of a scene in Mississippi Cold Case, was given state and federal immunity from prosecution to tell the full story of what happened. Seale was convicted of kidnapping and conspiracy on June 14, 2007 by a federal jury. On August 24, 2007, James Ford Seale was sentenced to serve three life terms for his crimes. [12][13] The Judge Wingate said that he took into account Seale’s advanced age and poor health, but added, “Then I had to take a look at the crime itself, the horror, the ghastliness of it.” Seale was imprisoned for a year at a medical facility. [1]. The conviction was overturned by the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals on September 9, 2008. The court ruled that the lower court had failed to recognize a statute of limitations applied to the case. Prosecutors still have the option to appeal. [14]

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ford_Seale

I refer to him as ''poor'' because of his age and illness. If he wasn't KKK I think everyone would feel sympathy and relieve that an elderly sick man is allowed to spend the few if any years he has left with his family.

Alot of post here ask that for young murderers so why not for an old sick dying man?
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So he should get away with murder? I don't have a bit of sympathy for this man.

Because someone is old they should be exempt from breaking the law? There isn't a statue of limitations on murder for a reason.

He didn't seem to care about the two lives he took when he was physically able to do it... therefore he should not mind spending his finals days in the prison infirmary.

There are many elderly men and women in prison, many of which are in for murder and actually have remorse for what they have done, and should have a second chance at freedom.... but this man never really was punished for his crime and I think that is not only a slap in the face to the VICITIMS and they FAMILY, but another way of vindicating the heinous acts of a domestic terrorist group.
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Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise, now he is out in the free world, he will or his family will have to foot his medical bills and not the state of mississippi.

If it wasn't a hate crime he committed this would be a jubilant post, titled ''justice at last''

If this was a black on white crime, would it even be mentioned. Are we all so politically correct that we become two faced.
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Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise, now he is out in the free world, he will or his family will have to foot his medical bills and not the state of mississippi.

If it wasn't a hate crime he committed this would be a jubilant post, titled ''justice at last''

If this was a black on white crime, would it even be mentioned. Are we all so politically correct that we become two faced.
Let me start by saying that I have never been politically correct about anything (hope that made some people smile)

i would not say "two-faced" simply because it just goes to name-calling and that leads to what?
A jubilant post? No way should this post ever be considered "jubilant" regardless of what happens to this man. It would not bring back the deaths he committed.

The families that he hurt have to deal with their lost in their way. Nothing you say or do is gong to bring back their family members. Nothing.

Once one KKK is gone there is another to take his place. It has to be stopped someplace, some how so that these conversations won't need to take place.

Yes, he and his family will now have to pay their own bills but he is still "free." Paying his own bills or the state paying for it, that's just another subject all together.

The main subject is whether or not he should have been freed. No. He should serve the amount of time the courts decided was necessary for the crime. Unfortunately, as a lot of us blacks know already, the system is as flawed as the rest of the world. Sad but true.

What are we going to do about it besides (and after) being angry? Being disappointed?

Sure, be angry! That's a great start. Then what? How long has this been happening and why? Who's going to stop it and how?

If I stayed angry at all of the things that happen to us African Americans for so very many years, I would never, ever be happy about one damn thing!

That is a terrible way for me to live my life.

The man deserves punishment. "ANY" type of killing is wrong.

Pray for a better world and pray for one another. At the same time, stand up for what you believe in and stick together to accomplish what is needed to put an end to this type of "so-called justice". It's about time, and long over due.
This man has hopefully a lot of demons in his own head to deal with. I want to believe that. But who knows, maybe he just doesn't really give a damn. Sad, but sometimes true.

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Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise, now he is out in the free world, he will or his family will have to foot his medical bills and not the state of mississippi.

If it wasn't a hate crime he committed this would be a jubilant post, titled ''justice at last''

If this was a black on white crime, would it even be mentioned. Are we all so politically correct that we become two faced.
There is no blessing in this. Period.

I disagree.... this would not be a jubilant post... regardless of the details of the crimes. Two young boys were killed.... he should serve time in lieu of his crimes.

There is nothing 2-faced about this. If he were white, yellow, green whatever... the fact remains that he killed two young boys, and he should serve time, regardless of his age. He should have thought about the consequences of his actions before he killed them.
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